Communist graduates from West Point

Skeeter

Platinum Member
#2
Wants to fight against US imperialism, but won't hesitate to apply for welfare benefits when he can't get a job with that less than honorable discharge.
 
#5
I guess I'm confused why he was discharged? Was it just for being a communist?

I would understand if he was advocating for violence but there is no mention of that from the article other than Rubio claiming he did but from the article he is quoted as saying:
“I would encourage all soldiers who have a conscience to lay down their arms and join me and so many others who are willing to stop serving the agents of imperialism and join us in a revolutionary movement,”

Laying down arms isn't exactly violent...
 
#6
They will hit him up for repayment, but I doubt he's going to be able to come up with $200K+ bill. Especially as a socialist.

Still SHOCKED his fellow cadets did not bring this up earlier.
 
#7
I guess I'm confused why he was discharged? Was it just for being a communist?

I would understand if he was advocating for violence but there is no mention of that from the article other than Rubio claiming he did but from the article he is quoted as saying:
“I would encourage all soldiers who have a conscience to lay down their arms and join me and so many others who are willing to stop serving the agents of imperialism and join us in a revolutionary movement,”

Laying down arms isn't exactly violent...
Advocating for the enemy will get you kicked. You want this kid leading a group of SOLDIERS???
 
#8
Advocating for the enemy will get you kicked.
Fair enough but I don't think he was doing that. He just supports a flawed economic model. I don't think he was advocating for a communist country to come take us over.

He just was discharged and it's not like they locked him up so he didn't have his rights violated, It just seems like a suppression of free speech at it's core though.
 
#9
Fair enough but I don't think he was doing that. He just supports a flawed economic model. I don't think he was advocating for a communist country to come take us over.

He just was discharged and it's not like they locked him up so he didn't have his rights violated, It just seems like a suppression of free speech at it's core though.

I'm guessing by your remarks, I could be wrong, that you haven't served in the military.
 
#11
Free Speech + Military = Are you freaking kidding me???

This cadet graduates as an OFFICER -Second Lieutenant not some motor pool lackie. Frankly he should thank his lucky stars because he was about to be the first officer assigned to cleaning prison toilets for 5 years.
 

stryker

Senior Member
#12
I guess I'm confused why he was discharged? Was it just for being a communist?

I would understand if he was advocating for violence but there is no mention of that from the article other than Rubio claiming he did but from the article he is quoted as saying:
“I would encourage all soldiers who have a conscience to lay down their arms and join me and so many others who are willing to stop serving the agents of imperialism and join us in a revolutionary movement,”

Laying down arms isn't exactly violent...
When you are in the military you do not have the same rights as civilians, and you do not abide by the same laws
 

MacFrisco

Diamond Member
#13
This guy served in Afghanistan. I'm guessing that he knew to keep his mouth shut while in West Point since he graduated in 2016.

The Fox News report is misleading, the photo is from May 2016 West Point graduation, not last year. He didn't post the photos until last September. He was an officer for almost two years after West Point, I'm sure he will be a big socialist leader some day.

He's gone now, the poop has hit the fan.
 
#14
Free Speech + Military = Are you freaking kidding me???

This cadet graduates as an OFFICER -Second Lieutenant not some motor pool lackie. Frankly he should thank his lucky stars because he was about to be the first officer assigned to cleaning prison toilets for 5 years.
I understand the distinction which was why originally I made sure to comment that his rights were in no way violated and that he was only discharged. My issue is that this reeks of red scare hysteria. There has been an alarming number of incidences in our society over the past few years where people are shouted down for their political beliefs. The effect is to limit free speech.
 

stryker

Senior Member
#15
This guy served in Afghanistan. I'm guessing that he knew to keep his mouth shut while in West Point since he graduated in 2016.

The Fox News report is misleading, the photo is from May 2016 West Point graduation, not last year. He didn't post the photos until last September. He was an officer for almost two years after West Point, I'm sure he will be a big socialist leader some day.

He's gone now, the poop has hit the fan.
It doesnt matter when the picture was taken. He is a disgrace and its sad it took this long to discharge him.
 
#18
Well the imbecile child is confused. He supports communism while extolling the virtues of extreme socialism. Again I blame his fellow cadets for not bringing this up sooner.
Then he is simply a naive child and you advocating for him to essentially be fined $200k for his political beliefs is kinda cruel. We all are still politically confused when were young trying to investigate and decide where we stand on the issues. Wearing Che Guevara shirts in college his hardly a reason to punish him. Him being called a disgrace and imbecile by people in this thread is laughable. We all held dumb beliefs when we were younger. I mean heck, I used to be a Fox News conservative until I graduated and started thinking for myself.
 
#20
Cruel?? It's fine to have different political beliefs, but not in the Military and certainly not as an Officer.
Yes I think it's cruel to essentially fine him $200,000 for having political beliefs simply because they fall outside the mainstream. He didn't do anything violent or advocate that others do, he didn't flunk out of his classes, commit a felony or anything I can think of that would even remotely justify him being placed under that financial burden.

His discharge is entirely justified given the difference between the rights civilians have vs the rights (or lack thereof) that military members have. I disagree strongly with this and all arguments I've heard involving hierarchy and cohesion haven't remotely convinced me that we should have such a stark distinction between military and civilian law but that's another topic entirely.